I have heard the same thing, Nick. I think that in the matter of karma there is no such absolution, its all delusional. This consent thing is relating to another matter pertaining to something else altogether but not to the question of karma. Everybody collects karma from unwholesome actions, be they physical, mental or verbal, regardless of their position in society, the prestige in which they're held by their peers, or the privileges that they enjoy in this lifetime. To understand this requires us to know the nature of Volitional Formations and how these are attached to the entity until they are dissolved when separation no longer exists, and they have become imbued with the creator source energy from which all life springs.
While They do think that, karma should come Their way when They are unEthical in Their telling. They do things akin to a scenario I offered in one piece I wrote a fair while ago.
You're very angry and want to hit Me, but know that just hitting Me without My consent is unEthical. So You go into the bathroom with a pen and some stickies, write down that You're going to hit Me, peel off the sticky and reach under the sink and post it to the bottom of the sink.
You come back and nail Me with a fist, and then claim that, because You "published" Your intent, and I did not declare that I do not consent, that My silence is consent so it's okay for You to hit Me.
They are not absolved unless They Ethically inform Us. Each One that will be affected informed directly, in clear and certain terms, in the vernacular used by the One being informed.
Then, and only then, can silence be taken as consent.
Any unethical action is an unwholesome action and arises out of hatred, greed and delusion. There is no justification for any such action and no escape whatsoever from karma. There is suffering even amongst the oligarchs, we just don't see it. We do see fanaticism and zealotry with which they seek to offset their suffering by taking out their hatred upon the masses. This is evident everywhere. They will all however need to walk the Eightfold Path, regardless, no matter how many eons this may take, and no matter which dimension of existence be it this or another. They shall have all eternity if need be. Why not start now, I ask them - you might as well do it in this lifetime rather than wait for the countless others that will follow.
Ah, but another ruse They use is the idea that if They pay You to, say, go kill someOne, and You do it, it's all on You. But the initiator of actions is just as guilty as the One creating the final aspect. If They had not paid, You would not have killed.
As for the dimensions and paths and all... I have no evidence, but cannot say it can be ruled out. LOL!
My understanding of everlasting life and overcoming demons has moved along since I was a born again Christian aged sixteen. I no longer always read the scriptures literally as I did then and I now regard my spirituality as a more pragmatic one than the one that was dictated by the Roman Catholic Empire. But yes we must all overcome our demons and attain to Christ Consciousness.
Yes we do, I agree Amaterasu Solar, but there are residual energies from past karma that remain attached to entities that also contribute towards the creation of the conditions of their reality. 🙏💜🙏
I suppose... I have no evidence of that, either... But will not rule it out. Maybe the reason My life is so screwed up is because I was ghastly elsewhere/when, but then I must ask... How can that be Me if I do not remember, and surely have no will to be unEthical in the least? [shrug]
We return with no knowledge of our previous lives, with the rare exception, as to do so would undermine the lessons to be learned. Karma is the energetic imprint upon our etheric bodies carried forward from previous lives that remain with us until the karma is cleared. It's a part of our consciousness, in as much as our DNA is the genetic imprint of our ancestors, and a part of our body. Both imprints represent the limits and restrictions placed upon our consciousness to enable us to cocreate the circumstances that enables the lessons to be learned and the karma to be cleared. Or consciousness requires a specific kind of traction in order to work on clearing karma, which includes the conditions and circumstances of our lifetimes, physical disabilities, mental and emotional challenges etc. The aspect of your consciousness that is you in this lifetime would never have chosen these circumstances of your current lifetime, but that larger more evolved part of your consciousness, outside of the physical material reality in higher dimensions, did for the purpose of clearing the aggregated accumulation of past life karma. 🙏💜🙏
Proof is for alcohol as they say, Amaterasu Solar 🙏💜🙏. We can only deal in evidence and even then we can only know such things with degrees of certainty even when we witness things with our own eyes. Just as with Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle there are always degrees of uncertainty, and this is as much a factor when dealing with Psi phenomenon as with quantum effects. We are dealing with probability at times and at other times personal experience, at times with intuition and also sheer gut instinct, as well as rationality, deduction, extrapolation and logic. We are talking about Fringe science and metaphysics and at times it’s necessary to go out on a limb to speculate to accumulate. But proof? Only to my own subjective satisfaction, my dear friend, no more, I’m afraid to say. I have scoured the world, so to speak, and proof is in very short supply. This is because reality behaves like a probabilistic virtual reality. It’s all information and it all requires interpretation into 3 dimensional terms, even when discussing masters beyond the physical material reality, i.e non-physical reality. Personal experience in these matters is a prerequisite to even talk about it, and then it’s important to realise that reality is essentially subjective. What's important is the need to stay sceptical whilst remaining open minded and go find your own evidence.
Well, I guess “proof” is not the right word then. Strong evidence? I have seen none. [shrug] And yes, uncertainty is why I never believe anything. I place probabilities of truth based on how well the data explain what I see, adjusting them as new data come along that better explain what I see.
Conception per their 1 USC 8 born alive is what they have 99.99 percent of the poopulation believing when fertilization is you Godly origin creation biological 46 chromosomes. Where did you come from? Their arebitrary 92 chromosome chimera or 46 chromosome Godly origin? Wake up as paper is meaningless.
Interesting stuff
My question is why doesn’t karma rebound on the Oligarchs that are ruling this planet.
One understanding I have is they believe that if they tell us what they are planning/doing there will be no bad karma.
I have heard the same thing, Nick. I think that in the matter of karma there is no such absolution, its all delusional. This consent thing is relating to another matter pertaining to something else altogether but not to the question of karma. Everybody collects karma from unwholesome actions, be they physical, mental or verbal, regardless of their position in society, the prestige in which they're held by their peers, or the privileges that they enjoy in this lifetime. To understand this requires us to know the nature of Volitional Formations and how these are attached to the entity until they are dissolved when separation no longer exists, and they have become imbued with the creator source energy from which all life springs.
While They do think that, karma should come Their way when They are unEthical in Their telling. They do things akin to a scenario I offered in one piece I wrote a fair while ago.
You're very angry and want to hit Me, but know that just hitting Me without My consent is unEthical. So You go into the bathroom with a pen and some stickies, write down that You're going to hit Me, peel off the sticky and reach under the sink and post it to the bottom of the sink.
You come back and nail Me with a fist, and then claim that, because You "published" Your intent, and I did not declare that I do not consent, that My silence is consent so it's okay for You to hit Me.
They are not absolved unless They Ethically inform Us. Each One that will be affected informed directly, in clear and certain terms, in the vernacular used by the One being informed.
Then, and only then, can silence be taken as consent.
Any unethical action is an unwholesome action and arises out of hatred, greed and delusion. There is no justification for any such action and no escape whatsoever from karma. There is suffering even amongst the oligarchs, we just don't see it. We do see fanaticism and zealotry with which they seek to offset their suffering by taking out their hatred upon the masses. This is evident everywhere. They will all however need to walk the Eightfold Path, regardless, no matter how many eons this may take, and no matter which dimension of existence be it this or another. They shall have all eternity if need be. Why not start now, I ask them - you might as well do it in this lifetime rather than wait for the countless others that will follow.
Ah, but another ruse They use is the idea that if They pay You to, say, go kill someOne, and You do it, it's all on You. But the initiator of actions is just as guilty as the One creating the final aspect. If They had not paid, You would not have killed.
As for the dimensions and paths and all... I have no evidence, but cannot say it can be ruled out. LOL!
There's only a one way street to karma and their generational demons inside them is everlasting life.
My understanding of everlasting life and overcoming demons has moved along since I was a born again Christian aged sixteen. I no longer always read the scriptures literally as I did then and I now regard my spirituality as a more pragmatic one than the one that was dictated by the Roman Catholic Empire. But yes we must all overcome our demons and attain to Christ Consciousness.
I ponder... We co-create the Now with Our choices of behavior. Do You agree?
Yes we do, I agree Amaterasu Solar, but there are residual energies from past karma that remain attached to entities that also contribute towards the creation of the conditions of their reality. 🙏💜🙏
I suppose... I have no evidence of that, either... But will not rule it out. Maybe the reason My life is so screwed up is because I was ghastly elsewhere/when, but then I must ask... How can that be Me if I do not remember, and surely have no will to be unEthical in the least? [shrug]
We return with no knowledge of our previous lives, with the rare exception, as to do so would undermine the lessons to be learned. Karma is the energetic imprint upon our etheric bodies carried forward from previous lives that remain with us until the karma is cleared. It's a part of our consciousness, in as much as our DNA is the genetic imprint of our ancestors, and a part of our body. Both imprints represent the limits and restrictions placed upon our consciousness to enable us to cocreate the circumstances that enables the lessons to be learned and the karma to be cleared. Or consciousness requires a specific kind of traction in order to work on clearing karma, which includes the conditions and circumstances of our lifetimes, physical disabilities, mental and emotional challenges etc. The aspect of your consciousness that is you in this lifetime would never have chosen these circumstances of your current lifetime, but that larger more evolved part of your consciousness, outside of the physical material reality in higher dimensions, did for the purpose of clearing the aggregated accumulation of past life karma. 🙏💜🙏
Hmmm. I do ponder that. Guessing there’s no proof?
Proof is for alcohol as they say, Amaterasu Solar 🙏💜🙏. We can only deal in evidence and even then we can only know such things with degrees of certainty even when we witness things with our own eyes. Just as with Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle there are always degrees of uncertainty, and this is as much a factor when dealing with Psi phenomenon as with quantum effects. We are dealing with probability at times and at other times personal experience, at times with intuition and also sheer gut instinct, as well as rationality, deduction, extrapolation and logic. We are talking about Fringe science and metaphysics and at times it’s necessary to go out on a limb to speculate to accumulate. But proof? Only to my own subjective satisfaction, my dear friend, no more, I’m afraid to say. I have scoured the world, so to speak, and proof is in very short supply. This is because reality behaves like a probabilistic virtual reality. It’s all information and it all requires interpretation into 3 dimensional terms, even when discussing masters beyond the physical material reality, i.e non-physical reality. Personal experience in these matters is a prerequisite to even talk about it, and then it’s important to realise that reality is essentially subjective. What's important is the need to stay sceptical whilst remaining open minded and go find your own evidence.
Outstanding post AND thread...TYVM Elliot. As an Sk.D I heartily endorse your sképsis strategy!
https://cheapthoughts.substack.com/p/what-exactly-is-skepticism
Well, I guess “proof” is not the right word then. Strong evidence? I have seen none. [shrug] And yes, uncertainty is why I never believe anything. I place probabilities of truth based on how well the data explain what I see, adjusting them as new data come along that better explain what I see.
Conception per their 1 USC 8 born alive is what they have 99.99 percent of the poopulation believing when fertilization is you Godly origin creation biological 46 chromosomes. Where did you come from? Their arebitrary 92 chromosome chimera or 46 chromosome Godly origin? Wake up as paper is meaningless.